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Reports are now coming in from around the world. 
Here is one country that has officially claimed that Hydroxychloroquin is working.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/bahrain-hydroxychloroquine-success-response-covid-19

I will have two new videos later this evening that are testimonials from patients that have been cured and attributed the drug. Hospitals and physicians all over the country are  using it as their first line of treatment. Many heart felt stories that it can’t be just coincidence. 

 

 

 

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Posted : March 26, 2020 6:31 pm
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The USA now has the most confirmed Coronavirus cases in the world. Italy and Spain have a higher "new death count". Are we just doing more testing and treating the infected better? We'll see in a few weeks.

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Posted : March 26, 2020 6:52 pm
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30 days ago POTUS comment on there being 15 cases (of Covid-19). "when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done."

words matter 

 

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Posted : March 26, 2020 7:30 pm
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Reports are now coming in from around the world. 
Here is one country that has officially claimed that Hydroxychloroquin is working.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/bahrain-hydroxychloroquine-success-response-covid-19

I will have two new videos later this evening that are testimonials from patients that have been cured and attributed the drug. Hospitals and physicians all over the country are  using it as their first line of treatment. Many heart felt stories that it can’t be just coincidence. 

 

 

 

Why? Many, many, many people have been infected and recovered without a hitch. No symptoms, moderate symptoms. A patient tell me they were sick the doctors gave them stuff and then they got better is meaningless not science fantasies. It’s not a thigh master, shake weight, or George Forman grill; it’s a virus with variable effects on the general population 

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Posted : March 26, 2020 7:36 pm
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The USA now has the most confirmed Coronavirus cases in the world. Italy and Spain have a higher "new death count". Are we just doing more testing and treating the infected better? We'll see in a few weeks.

Yes that was to be expected however the model they originally worked out was much worse and now the exponential increase over the last two days is flattening. Testing is available all over the country  and they are phasing in a better test today with quicker turn around time. 

Everything that N.Y. needs is being delivered including masks and respirators for the expected uptick in new cases. New repurposed ICUs and hospital facilitates have been completed or almost finished. The Comfort medical ship has been retrofitted, stocked and should be in NY Harbor in a few days. 

New treatments like Hydroxychloroquin and plasma antibody will most likely be used to try and lower the mortality. 

Cases are rising all over the country however it’s no where near as bad in rural areas of the country.  I think the measures taken were more than adequate and managed well with the task force so much so that the lame stream media that initially demanded more press conferences have decided not to air them anymore which is a good sign.  

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Posted : March 26, 2020 7:37 pm
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Reports are now coming in from around the world. 
Here is one country that has officially claimed that Hydroxychloroquin is working.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/bahrain-hydroxychloroquine-success-response-covid-19

I will have two new videos later this evening that are testimonials from patients that have been cured and attributed the drug. Hospitals and physicians all over the country are  using it as their first line of treatment. Many heart felt stories that it can’t be just coincidence. 

 

 

 

Why? Many, many, many people have been infected and recovered without a hitch. No symptoms, moderate symptoms. A patient tell me they were sick the doctors gave them stuff and then they got better is meaningless not science fantasies. It’s not a thigh master, shake weight, or George Forman grill; it’s a virus with variable effects on the general population 

   There have been those that are not treated and sent home with mild symptoms to resolve on their own however  there are many cases where the patient was not responding to symptomatic treatments with a worsening  prognosis  and survived because of  drug therapy that was rapid, this was observed and attested by the physicians in the field.  The medical community from all over the world including teaching hospitals that have been treating patients  now believe this drug is effective and it's  being used as their primary form of treatment. 

If you don't treat the patient they could possibly succumb to the illness  if you think they will resolve on their own if their prognosis worsens which is unethical not to treat. 

 

 

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Posted : March 26, 2020 7:49 pm
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 They asked three of the doctors on the task force if they would use the regiment if they or one of their patents were to get gravely ill from the corona virus and they all said yes but they also said they would like to see the trials completed. 

Here is a  video of the former Governor of Kansas that is attesting to the promising results of the regiment. 

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Posted : March 26, 2020 8:02 pm
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Reports are now coming in from around the world. 
Here is one country that has officially claimed that Hydroxychloroquin is working.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/bahrain-hydroxychloroquine-success-response-covid-19

I will have two new videos later this evening that are testimonials from patients that have been cured and attributed the drug. Hospitals and physicians all over the country are  using it as their first line of treatment. Many heart felt stories that it can’t be just coincidence. 

 

 

 

If you don't treat the patient they could possibly succumb to the illness  if you think they will resolve on their own if their prognosis worsens which is unethical not to treat. 

 

 

I think listening to a patients opinion is meaningless in regards to judging efficacy.  The flaws of the study this is based on are huge. Wish in one hand poop in the other report back which hand fills up first

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Posted : March 26, 2020 8:20 pm
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Reports are now coming in from around the world. 
Here is one country that has officially claimed that Hydroxychloroquin is working.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/bahrain-hydroxychloroquine-success-response-covid-19

I will have two new videos later this evening that are testimonials from patients that have been cured and attributed the drug. Hospitals and physicians all over the country are  using it as their first line of treatment. Many heart felt stories that it can’t be just coincidence. 

 

 

 

If you don't treat the patient they could possibly succumb to the illness  if you think they will resolve on their own if their prognosis worsens which is unethical not to treat. 

 

 

I think listening to a patients opinion is meaningless in regards to judging efficacy.  The flaws of the study this is based on are huge. Wish in one hand poop in the other report back which hand fills up first

There are a lot of hit pieces on the research from various media sources that are misleading and have been debunked. It is not an extensive trial and the sample size is small however it is what the greater scientific community including governments have taken seriously to warrant further study and use because it has an acceptable safety profile since it’s an old drug. It is an overwhelming consensus  because there is a high scientific probability It could work because the researcher is one of the most well renowned  infectious disease specialists and other countries like China and South Korea were using it a month ago before the French study. Some of this was started independent of knowing what respective counties were doing because it was based on one of the many drugs tried in the past for in vetro studies on the SARS virus which this corona virus is somewhat related.  

Have you seen the videos I posted? Most of them are physician testimonials. 
They are accredited physicians some affiliated with academic institutions that have been using the regiment in their respective hospitals  along with their colleagues. Not just patient testimony. 

Here is another one. I have a few more and I will post more as they come in. 

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Posted : March 26, 2020 10:14 pm
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BTW all of the videos I have posted contained physician testimonials who have treated patients  or physicians that are discussing the research. Only one video had the FDA commissioners interview, physician contributor and a very short patient interview which was part of a longer segment. 

If you would like I can repost them so you can see them in one place Incase you didn’t see them.  

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Posted : March 26, 2020 10:23 pm
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dev the “hit” pieces may be echoed by the media but the hits are being levied by the scientists.  So as you know I am a fucking  scientist am actually reading the scientific discussions and looking directly at the blatant flaws in the studies. Here I am the expert. Here is where I know more how to interpret. Testimonials are not science they are not truth no more than a fucking testimonial of how I lost 30 pounds using the shake weight.

as stated more than several times now a properly powered study with sufficient time is required to determine efficacy. The only correct answer right now.

 

70% of deaths in Italy are men. Is that because the virus is a man hater OR because Italian doctors preferentially give   females the ventilators? Who the docs choose to treat impacts any study when it is not highly controlled. 

 

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Posted : March 27, 2020 7:42 am
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Federal limit for testing in any area is 250 tests per day.  Mind boggling 

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Posted : March 27, 2020 7:53 am
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POTUS “I don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You know, you go into major hospitals sometimes and they'll have two ventilators. Now all of a sudden they're saying, 'Can we order 30,000 ventilators?'"

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Posted : March 27, 2020 8:22 am
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dev the “hit” pieces may be echoed by the media but the hits are being levied by the scientists.  So as you know I am a fucking  scientist am actually reading the scientific discussions and looking directly at the blatant flaws in the studies. Here I am the expert. Here is where I know more how to interpret. Testimonials are not science they are not truth no more than a fucking testimonial of how I lost 30 pounds using the shake weight.

as stated more than several times now a properly powered study with sufficient time is required to determine efficacy. The only correct answer right now.

 

70% of deaths in Italy are men. Is that because the virus is a man hater OR because Italian doctors preferentially give   females the ventilators? Who the docs choose to treat impacts any study when it is not highly controlled. 

 

The hit pieces are presented by disingenuous doctors like Sanjay Gupta from CNN. They were incredibly misleading and so was Bloomberg reporting. Its so bad I can post a video where a lay person has debunked it. It wouldn't surprise me if big pharma is behind it because thats who pays these failing networks. 

 We will have to agree to disagree on the rational of giving the drug. You are not the only Scientist that hold that opinion and that is welcomed because we do need skeptics but the  scientific community around the world  has done a risk benefit analysis and has determined because of the safety profile it is safe to try until it is not because it could save thousands of lives including ones on the front line that are treating the disease. They know the drugs safety profile given without antibiotics and how to screen for patients at risk. They are more concerned with the efficacy because that is what they don't know. With an experimental drug I would agree with you but even they are used when the patient is at the end of his or her rope. 

As the  former Governor mention you fight with the army you got.  

 

 

 

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Posted : March 27, 2020 8:35 am
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70% of deaths in Italy are men. Is that because the virus is a man hater OR because Italian doctors preferentially give   females the ventilators? Who the docs choose to treat impacts any study when it is not highly controlled. 

 

  They think there might be social reasons for this because in South Korea it was more women.  It is something left to the investigators, geneticists and statisticians when this is over. 

One interesting bit of news, it has been reported that  the Chinese play joke. The good will of sending Spain and Italy equipment and medical supplies could be the reason why they have large number of cases. It turns out they sent them faulty test kits that were showing false negatives.    

 If anyone wants to place blame first start with the Chinese and then next with the WHO. 

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Posted : March 27, 2020 8:44 am
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