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DesertWanderer
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I have the PPE MAGNAFLOW CATBACK EXHAUST, dual-outlet, on my stock 1ZZ.  It sounds OK but I really would like a louder more throaty exhaust. Does anyone have any ideas?

If anyone is familiar with S2000's I have the Mugen dual exhaust on my s2000 with over 400,000 miles on the exhaust and it sounds great! That is the kind of sound I want. Failing that I would be OK with louder and no drone. Anyone know what the Megan Racing Catback sounds like for the Spyder? Anyone know what the Apexi Catback sounds like for the Spyder?

Here is the Mugen exhaust on an AP1 S2000.

Thanks in advance!

This topic was modified 5 years ago 2 times by DesertWanderer

2007 S2000 (New Formula Red)
2005 Spyders (Two in Paradise Blue Metallic, One Super White)
2004 Tundra SR5 Double Cab (White with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Tundra SR5 Access Cab (Silver Stepside with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Sequoia SR5 (Black with 2UZ-FE Engine)
1970 Olds 442 W30 (Nugget Gold )

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Topic starter Posted : July 19, 2019 6:47 am
haloruler64
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Try the Team Moon. It has a LOT of character. Deep, raspy, uncivilized. 

2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder, 2021 Lexus UX 250h F Sport

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Posted : July 19, 2019 5:37 pm
DesertWanderer
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@haloruler64

That is the one that I am most impressed with. Is that just a "find it where you can" item? My searches have not turned it up.

This post was modified 5 years ago by DesertWanderer

2007 S2000 (New Formula Red)
2005 Spyders (Two in Paradise Blue Metallic, One Super White)
2004 Tundra SR5 Double Cab (White with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Tundra SR5 Access Cab (Silver Stepside with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Sequoia SR5 (Black with 2UZ-FE Engine)
1970 Olds 442 W30 (Nugget Gold )

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Topic starter Posted : July 19, 2019 5:48 pm
DesertWanderer
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I contacted Charlie Shatzen (mazcare.com) and I am getting him to build the Team Moon exhaust for me.

I do have a question that I need help on. I am in central Texas, routinely travel through New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and California. Would you suggest going with an aluminized system or with stainless?

 

Thanks!

2007 S2000 (New Formula Red)
2005 Spyders (Two in Paradise Blue Metallic, One Super White)
2004 Tundra SR5 Double Cab (White with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Tundra SR5 Access Cab (Silver Stepside with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Sequoia SR5 (Black with 2UZ-FE Engine)
1970 Olds 442 W30 (Nugget Gold )

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Topic starter Posted : July 19, 2019 6:42 pm
DesertWanderer
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Posted by: @haloruler64

Try the Team Moon. It has a LOT of character. Deep, raspy, uncivilized. 

If these vids are your car is this a single or duals?

2007 S2000 (New Formula Red)
2005 Spyders (Two in Paradise Blue Metallic, One Super White)
2004 Tundra SR5 Double Cab (White with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Tundra SR5 Access Cab (Silver Stepside with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Sequoia SR5 (Black with 2UZ-FE Engine)
1970 Olds 442 W30 (Nugget Gold )

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Topic starter Posted : July 19, 2019 6:46 pm
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I would be carful and do a little more research. It is possible that the PPE Magnaflow is the same as the one that is used for the Team Moon which basically a Camaro muffler. 

 The problem often comes from pairing the Magnaflow with the PPE header for the 1ZZ as they do not complement each other sound wise. 

The PPE does better with the TTE Remus exhaust that is no longer sold. 

 

 

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Posted : July 19, 2019 6:49 pm
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Personally, I'd go stainless.

"Think as we think", say many Spyder owners, "or you are abominably wicked, you are a toad". After I'd thought about, I said "I will then, be a toad."
Thank you, Stephen Crane

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DesertWanderer
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Posted by: @dev

I would be carful and do a little more research. It is possible that the PPE Magnaflow is the same as the one that is used for the Team Moon which basically a Camaro muffler. 

 The problem often comes from pairing the Magnaflow with the PPE header for the 1ZZ as they do not complement each other sound wise. 

The PPE does better with the TTE Remus exhaust that is no longer sold. 

 

 

Thanks for the reminder that there is more to this than the catback! My header is factory, precats gutted. I will research more!

2007 S2000 (New Formula Red)
2005 Spyders (Two in Paradise Blue Metallic, One Super White)
2004 Tundra SR5 Double Cab (White with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Tundra SR5 Access Cab (Silver Stepside with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Sequoia SR5 (Black with 2UZ-FE Engine)
1970 Olds 442 W30 (Nugget Gold )

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Topic starter Posted : July 19, 2019 7:31 pm
haloruler64
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It's my car, and it's dual tip yes. Glad you found the dude! And I don't know the difference between the SS and aluminum mufflers in terms of sound, construction, price, etc. The Magnaflow can used has super thin metal, like a tin can, so it is a bit fragile... over the course of decades. 

Dev the PPE muffler used is completely different. Sounds entirely different too. 

2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder, 2021 Lexus UX 250h F Sport

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Posted : July 19, 2019 8:47 pm
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@desertwanderer

Sorry about that I misread what you wrote . I assumed you had a PPE header.  

A teammoon with a gutted header and stock downpipe sounds phenomenal.  Plenty of character like an old school carburetor. 

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Posted : July 19, 2019 9:10 pm
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Posted by: @haloruler64

It's my car, and it's dual tip yes. Glad you found the dude! And I don't know the difference between the SS and aluminum mufflers in terms of sound, construction, price, etc. The Magnaflow can used has super thin metal, like a tin can, so it is a bit fragile... over the course of decades. 

Dev the PPE muffler used is completely different. Sounds entirely different too. 

Do you happen to know which one PPE uses. 

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Posted : July 19, 2019 9:11 pm
haloruler64
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I do not. I just know its sound is very very different as I had two friends with PPE exhausts. To be fair, both were full exhausts with 4-1 header and midpipe but the sound is so wildly different that it can't be the same can. It's very high pitched and... I'm sorry, it's very K20-ish.

2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder, 2021 Lexus UX 250h F Sport

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Posted : July 19, 2019 10:02 pm
DesertWanderer
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@dev

Thanks for reminding me to think more about the exhaust SYSTEM and not just one component!

This post was modified 5 years ago by DesertWanderer

2007 S2000 (New Formula Red)
2005 Spyders (Two in Paradise Blue Metallic, One Super White)
2004 Tundra SR5 Double Cab (White with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Tundra SR5 Access Cab (Silver Stepside with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Sequoia SR5 (Black with 2UZ-FE Engine)
1970 Olds 442 W30 (Nugget Gold )

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Topic starter Posted : July 19, 2019 10:02 pm
DesertWanderer
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@haloruler64

I am sorry as well that it is, as you so aptly put it, "k20 ish". That is what I am trying to fix!

This post was modified 5 years ago by DesertWanderer

2007 S2000 (New Formula Red)
2005 Spyders (Two in Paradise Blue Metallic, One Super White)
2004 Tundra SR5 Double Cab (White with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Tundra SR5 Access Cab (Silver Stepside with 2UZ-FE Engine)
2003 Sequoia SR5 (Black with 2UZ-FE Engine)
1970 Olds 442 W30 (Nugget Gold )

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Topic starter Posted : July 19, 2019 10:04 pm
haloruler64
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The Team Moon on a stock header and midpipe is absolutely delightful. I adore it every time I drive the car. Never tried it with other exhaust components, but the 4-2-1 eBay header didn't really change the tone of my exhaust much so I don't think that would hurt it.

2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder, 2021 Lexus UX 250h F Sport

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